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According to Tobias Churton in his text The Golden Builders ,  the concept of an Angelic or antediluvian language was common during Dee's time. If one could speak the language of Angels, it was believed one could directly interact with them. In , Dee mentioned in his personal journals that God had sent "good angels" to communicate directly with prophets. In , Dee teamed up with the seer Edward Kelley , although Dee had used several other seers previously. Their work resulted, among other things, in the reception of the Enochian or Angelical language.
According to Dee's journals,  Angelical was supposed to have been the language God used to create the world, and which was later used by Adam to speak with God and the angels, and to name all things in existence.
After his Fall from Paradise , Adam lost the language and constructed a form of proto- Hebrew based upon his vague memory of Angelical. This proto-Hebrew, then, was the universal human language until the time of the Confusion of Tongues at the Tower of Babel.
After this, all the various human languages were developed, including an even more modified Hebrew which we know as " Biblical Hebrew ". From the time of Adam to the time of Dee and Kelley, Angelical was hidden from humans with the single exception of the patriarch Enoch who, according to the angels, recorded the "Book of Loagaeth" Speech from God for humanity. The book was then lost again in the Deluge of Noah. The reception of Enochian started on March 26, , when Kelley reported visions in the crystal of the twenty-one lettered alphabet characteristic of the language.
A few days later, Kelley started receiving what became the first corpus of texts in the purported Angelic language. The book consists of 49 great letter tables, or squares made of 49 by 49 letters however, each table has a front and back side—making 98 49x49 tables in all. These come with English translations, thus providing the basis for the Enochian vocabulary. The texts comprise 48 poetic verses, which in Dee's manuscripts are called "Claves Angelicae", or "Angelic Keys".
The Keys are assigned certain functions within the magical system. I am therefore to instruct and inform you, according to your Doctrine delivered, which is contained in 49 Tables. In 49 voices, or callings: which are the Natural Keys to open those, not 49 but 48 for one is not to be opened Gates of Understanding, whereby you shall have knowledge to move every Gate… . But you shall understand that these 19 Calls are the Calls, or entrances into the knowledge of the mystical Tables.
Every Table containing one whole leaf, whereunto you need no other circumstances. While these texts contain most of the vocabulary, dozens of further words are found hidden throughout Dee's journals, and thousands of undefined words are contained in the Liber Loagaeth. The Enochian script is written from right to left, and may include diacritical marks. Different documents have slightly different forms of the script.
Some of the letter names are pronounced as they would be in English, but many are pronounced differently. The Enochian letters have English letter equivalents. The Enochian letters are read from right to left, as written in John Dee's diary. The Enochian alphabet with letter forms, letter names, English equivalents, and pronunciation of the letter names pronunciation in quotes if different than English :  .
The Australian linguist Donald Laycock has noted the discrepancy [ clarification needed ] between the two revealed sets of Enochian texts as an indication that Enochian is not a consistent language. According to Laycock's linguistic analysis, the syntax of the Enochian calls is almost identical with that of English.
Both languages have soft and hard consonants such as c and g , and combine s and h to make the sh sound. As for the semantics of Enochian, additional similarities to English have been found. For example, luciftias , a term meaning brightness, may very possibly have a connection to Lucifer , whose name means "light bringer. These and other examples have led skeptics to believe that many of these terms are derived from notions that would have been contemporary in Dee's and Kelley's time. The alphabet also shares many graphical similarities to a script- also attributed to the prophet Enoch- that appeared in the Voarchadumia Contra Alchimiam of Johannes Pantheus , a copy of which Dee is known to have owned.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Occult or angelic language recorded in late 16th-century England in the journals of John Dee and Edward Kelley, who claimed that it was revealed by the Enochian angels. Is Day tenured somewhere?
In what discipline s? June 8, am.
It's unfortunate Dr. Rao has passed, I would have loved to hear a debate between him and Dr.knowledgebrief.vvinners.com/bide-solteros-sin.php
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Day over whether the alphabet derived from the Indus script or a lost European ancestor. Prof Mallory is that the same Mallory who has published jointly with Prof Mair? I think that the latter part requires qualification : "in order to be a Nazi in this day and age, you have to be willfully ignorant of some things! You have to actively resist learning about these things — actively resist informing yourself about them. So to my mind, a Nazi could potentially be a world-class linguist; nothing of which I am aware in Nazi ideology makes that impossible.
Not all evil men are stupid, and not all good men are intelligent. If this kind of reasoning were sound, we should be happy and not worry. Worse, even just in the unlikely case the above statement were found to be true, we would not have advanced a bit because the methodology applied is totally open to random statements. On the not-so-bright side it is now OK to take any word from any time and any language provided it's an Aryan language as evidence for the origin of any letter.
The nature of the authoritarian is not so much in what is asserted, it is much more in how it is asserted, and that it is asserted. Flat earth, vaxers, moon hoax, racial superiority, and, today, finally a History of the Alphabet without those pesky interlopers from down south.
Its all about who has the right to dominate over and silence others. I'm not a troll, I'm a lawyer. I don't have a Ph.
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So here's an expert opinion, whereof I testify within a reasonable degree of professional certainty — Once you've stopped addressing the facts of the case, and have gone on to attacking the other guy, you've lost your case. You are right that I'm being sloppy distinguishing between writing systems and alphabets.
But I guess the question I was trying to ask was: Are the Mayan writing systems or the Cuneiform writing system for that matter! That is to say, could someone "learn" the script, and then be able to "read" a previously unseen text, or do they require "extra" information in order to derive lexical meaning from them?
I wonder about where the line is between a "picture" and "writing". A landscape painting is a bare representation of nature, and conveys "meaning" only subjectively. A religious icon or statue does convey meaning through its stereotyped and largely regular use of color, proportion, gestures, objects, etc.
Then you progress on to things like rebuses and early hieroglyphs, which only just barely fail to make the cut as "sentences". But where is the line, or what is the test? Orsetti I'm not sure how relevant your second point is to the discussion at hand the remarks concerning ad hominems sure are valid , but let me remark that your assumptions about "real writing"—paraphrasingly, it's real writing if you can read and understand it after only learning the script and without any external knowledge—are probably not correct.
When you want to understand a text, you must to some degree also understand the language that the text is written in. This is true for any kind of notation, be it true writing or rebuses. It also remains true in the digital age. All the attempts at a 'semantic web' were in the end just attempts to add explicit annotations; many people had hoped to be able to 'capture meaning', as it were, but meaning can not be captured. In the general case, it is not possible to decrypt an arbitrary encoded message; you always need some context, some assumptions.
BOOT means a kind of footwear on the assumption it is an English word, or a boat if meant to be German. Other than that it may also mean 'please start your computer'. There is no telling without evidence, outside of context. BTW Egyptian hieroglyphs were rather more contextual than the Latin alphabet in that they sometimes provided so-called 'determiners', i.
Sorry, I was inadvertently defining "Nazi" as someone who actually believes the stuff. See also Karl Lueger's famous response when asked about inconsistencies in his antisemitism: "I'm the one who gets to decide who is a Jew".
When my own bona fides is called into question for merely having suggested that "ad hominem" isn't a terribly helpful way to pursue linguistic criticism. What… no. This attitude that the Internet isn't real makes me angry, because it is itself based on willful ignorance. I'm also amused that you confuse "insult" and "ad-hominem argument". I was concluding that you were either trolling or had overlooked something big, not assuming that from the outset and then basing my conclusions on that assumption.
Trust me, I pay so little attention to who says something that it completely escaped me the comments from pm and am were by the same person i. I only noticed just now when scrolling up and seeing that in my own comment. Unrelatedly, I don't think being a troll and a lawyer are mutually exclusive. Even while doing your job as a lawyer, it may on certain occasions be useful to say or write something calculated to inflame the other side, i. Are the Mayan writing systems or the Cuneiform writing system for that matter!
That is to say, could someone "learn" the script, and then be able to "read" a previously unseen text. OK, with cuneiform it's a bit of a matter of definition; the origin of cuneiform is so well documented that we know the very earliest stages couldn't be used to write texts, just to do things like listing the contents of a sealed container. But after that, long before the Sumerian language died out, we're looking at a script quite similar, actually, to modern Japanese in the way it worked.